This morning a low.loader lorry, the type that carry's Big JCB machinery came up Bunwell Road from the village centre, at quite some speed. We had just pulled out of Hill Road and, as there was a lorry stopped on the opposite side of the road, leaving our side clear, we drove towards the chicane. This huge lorry pulled over onto 'our side' of the road and drove at us. When my husband remonstrated with the driver, the hand gestures and abuse seemed to have something to do with Paxo & turkeys. Such a 'Knight of the Road'!! oh yes, the name of the company on the truck..........It began with an 'N' Very local.
What appalling behaviour from the lorry driver. You seem polite and civil, yet had to put up with that abuse from a local firm that does not even have planning permission for its business. A car is no match for a lorry like that and it must have been very frightening. If you haven't already done so, you should report this dangerous driving to the police. The HGV route through the heart of the village is becoming increasingly more dangerous with the extra lorries that now use it.
What is happening at the Newall's Appeal? Does anyone know? Their website for Bunwell Road is under construction, it looks like it is going to be a permanent business location. http://www.newallcivilengineering.co.uk/
Well I find that very hard to believe.. That is if you are talking about the company I think you are, I've come across the person that drives their articulated lorry and find him to be one of the more polite and courteous drivers that travel through the village. An example being a while ago I had the misfortune to break down one evening in the dark and being a woman on my own without my phone was a tad bit worrying. There were many cars and lorries that drove past me but guess who stopped to see if I was ok and needed any help... yes our rude arrogant lorry driver! He let me borrow his phone to call for help and offered to stay with me saying his boss really wouldn't mind. Just remember there are other companies very local that operate that type of machinery carrying lorries too. These drivers are only trying to make a living and in the grand scale of things seem to get slated for really quite trivial reasons. When you think of all the bad things going on in the world today all the people starving, getting killed or trafficked around, a few lorries interfering with peoples day is rather irrelevant.
Having a large lorry drive at you with abusive gestures, from a business that has no permission to operate from its current location is not "irrelevant"!
This company was not provided with planning permission and still on appeal? Why is it taking so long as no date has been set for a decision https://acp.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/ViewCase.aspx?caseid=3151794
It is about time the authorities did something about this. It is like the system of enforcement is falling apart.
I wish I had never moved to this stuck up nimby village!. The fact that everyone is so happy that this company has had planning refused is awful. What if people loose jobs over this??. We will all be paying for them through the benefits that will have to be claimed. Yes I'm not keen on lorries coming down Bunwell road, but could there not of been an alternative route proposed if the hgv traffic is the problem?.
i doubt very much if this business will close down. it needs to locate closer to a trunk road where it does not have a negative impact on the lives of people all trying to use a country road through the village. its planning was refused last year, yet it just ignored that decision and just carried on doing whatever it wanted to do. do you consider that to be professional and the right and considerate thing to do? the appeal got it right.
I live on Bunwell Road and yes the lorries from the company you are talking about can be a nuisance. Mainly just noise as a lot of the drivers do and have slowed down a lot. I think just because there are a lot of this companies lorries driving through the village they do get tarred with the same brush.. there are other local companies, for instance chicken companies and there lorries (from my experience) drive a lot faster.
I am not one to moan and simply just feel this is something we have to live with. If anything was to upset or concern me I would feel happy to contact the company directly.
I am sure the new residents who will move in to the new development on Bunwell Road will be most effected as their windows / front doors are 1-2 metres approx away from the road.
If they had applied for Planning permission initially via the correct route , access issues could have been discussed and worked out perhaps. Just doing it and then hoping no one will notice is not the way to do this
Hooray that we appear at last to have some Planning enforcement with teeth.
I am am sad that people might lose their jobs but there are some industrial estates just up the road where this activity would not cause any grief and actually could have far better access than they have now, without risk to road users and the school in Spooner row
If people think this application was stopped due to the village then think again, no amount of protests would of made any difference, every village over Norfolk doesn't want this kind of traffic. Highways didnt object even to the point of stating the road out of their site wasn't wide enough, adding passing bays was their solution it seems.
Reading the appeal it was the people that lived directly around the site that were most affected, trucks driving past your door is one thing, concrete crushers, excavators all day long is another. What about that yellow house on the corner of the site entrance, how they put up with it I don't know.
This road is just not suitable for large trucks and lorries. I hate it when they mount the pavement when trying to pass each other. There are more potholes in Station Road again.
yes we all get the planning is what people are on about here however do none of the village busy bodies have anything better to do than prey on others miss fortune, people r out of jobs, how do the cottage cope and some of spooner row cope.. oh yes we go to work during the day instead of watching out of our windows counting lorries. many companies with lorries use this road, and i some how think it's not going to change anyway as someone said ...you don't like it what's stoping you leaving? i have followed this message board for a long time now and it really gone down the pan, does no one have anything good to say istead of constant complaining!
I think u need too look at the other lorries going through the village. Least the newal lorries drive through the village slowly. other company's go through at some high speeds..
Fridge lorries going in and out the village at all hours.
I think the Newalls lorries do drive fast through the village and the other companies are just as bad - it is not just about one company. This is why many residents regularly complain about the unsuitability of Station Rd and Bunwell Rd having the HGV route designation.
Using your logic, it would be fine for me to start up my own business of any sort, no matter what disruption it caused, without planning permission, and as long aa few lorry drivers (who race through a village, banging their horns at children) are employed al will be fine?
Newals are currently operating without permission or license. They need to go. Simple.
Well done the Planning Enforcement team and really pleased that Anon is clearly so irritated that he tells us all to leave when surely it is he/she that needs to do so, and then positively, if he or she does leave then we can start addressing this wanton destruction of the village without dissention and get something done
I think the message board is brilliant .............positive enough?
It would be worth noting the registrations and calling Newall's- the owner will tell the driver to slow down.
Personally I have never witnessed Newall drivers going fast recently. It is other companies, the person who said fridge lorries at all hours is correct! As well as the articulated lorries at .. 2/3am! Although most people will be asleep so it shouldn't effect them! Also chicken lorries..
For the meantime none of these lorries are going anywhere fast- so I think noting down companies and culprits is positive..could this info then be passed to the council?
It seems Newalls lorries went up in smoke last night, 4 according to the paper, bit of a coincidence don't you think now they're surplus to requirements.
I give exactly as much of a s*** about the horrible people behind this company as they did about the poor people who's lives they disrupted (is ruined too strong?) for all those years, all the noise, stress etc. When they illegally started operating their plant, for all the people who suffered at the hands of their trucks thundering through a small village.
i am glad you have lost all your money, not so pleased for the people who lost their jobs, but the rest can sod off
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Until last Saturday I hadn't been as wound up on this subject as fellow villagers! Then late lunchtime I followed, what turned out to be two Newall trucks off the northbound A11. Truck 2 took the slip road roundabout so fast that he actually bounced the truck sideways off the brickwork of the roundabout and roared up the B1172 to the Spooner Row right turn which, again, he took so fast that he clipped and anihilated a freestanding roadsign on the central island. He then went round the first flyover roundabout so fast the whole truck was wobbling and veering so badly I thought he was going to loose control! Even though I drive a "hot hatch" he pulled a good way ahead of me (and I was keeping a safe distance and speed anyway) and drove in to the village like the road was a racetrack. The chicane barely slowed him down but the level crossing barriers brought him and truck 1), who I assume he was racing to catch up, to a halt. I have the vehicle registration no. but wish I'd had a dash cam to record the whole whacky race because it would already have been in the hands of Norfolk Constabulary. Liquidation or no liquidation it would not prevent the driver being prosecuted for dangerous and reckless driving.
That behaviour is disgusting and we shouldn't have to keep putting up with it.
Newall Civil engineering Ltd which is in Administration has been part bought out by a company called Newall Plant Ltd of the same address a couple of weeks ago. This includes the transfer of some of the assets as part of the sale. I wonder if they have planning permission for this new company to use trucks - if that is their intention? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08709798
EDP story on 4 lorries in fire at Newalls, http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/four_hgvs_at_centre_of_fire_drama_in_besthorpe_1_4916226
That company is basically dormant, and your notice the Director of Civil Engineering has been removed from Plant and his son appointed. Move the assets into one company from another and right off he depts in the old one, good luck getting any trade accounts and customers dealing with people like that.
It is interesting reading as one of the filing history says that this company has moved its offices to Top Barn Broad Farm Upper Street Salhouse Norwich NR13 6HE, will all the business move there?
This company needs to stop causing problems with its trucks in the village and find itself a suitable location to operate from as it has no permission to do so here. It also needs to clear up its site with all the waste material it has been importing and depositing, it had no business to do this in the first place.
