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I have just returned to SR after a few months and to my horror I discovered that their is a proposal to split up our Parish. This is worse than Brexit. I do not want our Parish broken up and I hope that this proposal  can be stopped. 



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Anonymous

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Really??

Looking at the previous WTC minutes, I see that our existing parish is taking over the responsibility of over 100 street lights in Wymondham with a result to increase everyones precept in the near future.  Remind me how many street lights Spooner Row, Suton and Wattlefield have? WTC is also taking over the responsibility of the town's public toilets. We as taxpayers are expected to contribute to all these extra town expenses. This is ANOTHER good reason for leaving and the sooner the better. I prefer visiting Attleborough instead of Wymondham anyway, it has better parking facilities.

Also, I read in the minutes that WTC is making representation to the Boundary Commission to stop us from splitting from the existing expanding town parish. I suppose that need us to help pay for all of WTC's extra responsibilities that they have taken on.

Look at WTC's website http://wymondhamtc.norfolkparishes.gov.uk/



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Anonymous

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There is a rumour that more costs to come for the Town after last weeks secret meeting where public were excluded



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Anonymous wrote:

I have just returned to SR after a few months and to my horror I discovered that their is a proposal to split up our Parish. This is worse than Brexit. I do not want our Parish broken up and I hope that this proposal  can be stopped. 


 Worse than Brexit? why didn’t you comment on the proposal when you had the chance?



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Anonymous

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I fully agree with those who say that we should stay together. The street lights argument is a red herring as the costs will remain the same. Yes it is worse than Brexit.



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Anonymous

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What a load of nonsense about a secret meeting. The item on the agenda had to be held below the line because it contained commercially sensitive figures. All Parish Councils and other councils follow this procedure. Stop putting out fake news on this site to try and justify the splitting up of the Parish.



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Anonymous

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The large majority vote justifies the split of the parish. The street lights are not a red herring, it clearly says in WTCs minutes that the precept will be increased. Read it for yourself in WTCs website.  You said the secret meeting had commercially sensitive stuff, from that I guess you are from WTC. I can't wait for the creation of our independent parish where decisions will be open and we will have a parish council that is best suited to the needs of this community.



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Anonymous

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Fake news ??? as the public were excluded the meeting it was by definition secret. So how was that fake? Why have we not been told about it and what was the outcome, and what exactly does commercaily sensitive mean??  Please explain.

We have 3 street lights in Spooner row and hundreds in Wymondham which will eventaully wear out and need to be replaced. So how can you not see that this will not be cost neutral in the long term unless you plan to turn them all off of course and as Spooner row, Suton and Wattlefiled pay right now exactly the same rates as Wymondham and therefore subsidise the rate payers of Wymondham for this service, why would they not be happy to break away ?

You live in Wymondham I assume and worse than Brexit?  Are you living in some kind of fantasy world? Brexit will cost everyone of us thousands of pounds with a devalued pound and a massive rise in imported goods including food so please explain how it is worse. Evidence is always good but like the true Brexiteers they simply do not provide any  because there isn't any.



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Matt

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Fake news ??? as the public were excluded the meeting it was by definition secret. So how was that fake? Why have we not been told about it and what was the outcome, and what exactly does commercaily sensitive mean??  Please explain.

We have 3 street lights in Spooner row and hundreds in Wymondham which will eventaully wear out and need to be replaced. So how can you not see that this will not be cost neutral in the long term unless you plan to turn them all off of course and as Spooner row, Suton and Wattlefiled pay right now exactly the same rates as Wymondham and therefore subsidise the rate payers of Wymondham for this service, why would they not be happy to break away ?

You live in Wymondham I assume and worse than Brexit?  Are you living in some kind of fantasy world? Brexit will cost everyone of us thousands of pounds with a devalued pound and a massive rise in imported goods including food so please explain how it is worse. Evidence is always good but like the true Brexiteers they simply do not provide any  because there isn't any.


 Perhaps we should remove Brexit from this conversation, it is not going to be helpful. SRExit (and Wymainers) on the other hand, totally reasonable.

The facts are, you all had well over a year to make your thoughts known and chose to say nothing. I am sorry you are now not happy with the result, perhaps you should apply for a position on the new council and strongly encourage closer working ties, perhaps a customs union.



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julian halls

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this from our District Councillor on FB

‎Jack Hornby‎ to Wymondham Ways

 

Fantastic news for Wymondham. I am pleased to announce that a joint project between Wymondham Town Council and South Norfolk District Council to provide a full-size 3G pitch at Ketts Park has secured £394,000 of funding from the Football Foundation as part of a £1.2 million investment!!!!!!

What Jack Hornby fails to mention is that whilst this CAPITAL  investment will cost the council nothing, the maintenance and mowing of the remaining grass field and its surrounds will cost the council in the order of 15- 20 K per annum. Significant sums of money from the new developers section 106 money will also be used to help fund this and as part of the deal the Town Council will lease the Ketts Park to South Norfolk for 21 years. The lease fee has been taken into account in the calculation. 

There was a suggestion that we might profit share from this and this is being explored which given the current arrangements for free parking at the site, which might change of course, is a good one. As the park would be in South Norfolk's control that would be their decision.

This followed a very sensible debate in closed  full council ( as mentioned by ANON above) and was approved by the Council but I remain concerned that with , the taking over of the street lights and the toilets we are spending our money, at the District Council's request  at a fair rate of knots. 



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The split up of the Parish will cost us all dear. Lets stay together for the good of the whole Parish.



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Anonymous wrote:

The split up of the Parish will cost us all dear. Lets stay together for the good of the whole Parish.


Can you not understand the concept of a reasonable argument? With what has been put forward by the valid and sound reasons from other postings, I would rephrase that as, 

      The split up of the Parish will save us all a lot of money. Lets not stay together for the good of the break-away part of the parish. xx



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Thank you, Julian, for that information. I am getting increasingly exasperated by our District/Parish Councillor Jack Hornby. He has promoted the merits and large sums involved on FB, for the new football facilities at Ketts Park while at the same time allowing our playing field at Spooner Row to become run-down and too expensive for local groups to use.  He needs to remember that he is elected to serve Cromwells Ward, not Ketts Park. 

Hopefully, our new community parish, when it is up and running, will improve this sorry situation on the playing field.



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I am disgusted with this attack on Jack Hornby. He managed to secure a lot of funds for Village projects and that should be recognised . Shame on you for trying to smear a good local Councillor. 



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Please elaborate...



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Anonymous

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Quote:  I am disgusted with this attack on Jack Hornby. He managed to secure a lot of funds for Village projects and that should be recognised . Shame on you for trying to smear a good local Councillor. 

 

Reply:  What an overreaction! If any councillor, being Jack Hornby or whoever, cannot take constructive criticism then they are in the wrong job. I understand that Cllr Jack Hornby regularly visits this forum and therefore should take the opportunity to speak up for himself. 

Being a councillor is more than just allocating (small) grants, which incidentally is paid for by us the taxpayer. I don't see any recent evidence of improvements from grant funding on the recreation ground, just the opposite. What happened to the sports portacabin?



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I have a question about the ketts park £1.2 million investment, was any of the 106 money raised from the new builds in Spooner row?

 i am also concerned that the parish council is spending our money at the district councils request. it looks like the district and parish councils are getting a bit too cosy together .



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Good afternoon all

This is my first post since the loss of my Mother who was a long standing resident of Spooner Row.  To residents far and wide thank you all for your condolences, as these have helped my Father and the wider family greatly.

Having previously explored the claims made by several Anonymous posters that Wymondham Town Council had grant funded projects in our community in recent years and found such claims to be false, can we please stop the falsehoods relating to excessive costs and look forward to a positive future.

Within our 3 communities we have 3 waste bins, 3 dog bins and 3 street lights to look after.  Add in the remaining 3 flower planters and the grass on the playing field to cut, I think that the £23,721.42 that we all contribute from our 2018/19 Council Tax into the coffers of Wymondham Town Council is more than sufficient for our needs.

To the Anonymous Poster that stated “The split up of the Parish will cost us all dear”, please make yourself known to me by calling 07748 300820.  I have all of the likely financials for the new community council at hand and I am happy to discuss these with you, as I am with any other resident that wishes to engage directly with me.

Robert Foster

 



-- Edited by webstation on Tuesday 3rd of April 2018 03:20:03 PM



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