Spooner Row Message Board

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Stupid planning system that can allow resubmitted applications of the same thing, the council should throw it out.

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 Hopefully our council will highlight this, HGV traffic through our village is already way too much.

The "60,000 tonne a year" in to N*w*lls,  is likely to be a conservative estimate.

It also equates to 60,000 tonne out again after processing.

= Total 120,000 tonne a year

The typical HGV tipper truck has a 20 tonne payload. Thus 120,000 tonne a year  equals 6,000 truckloads a year   -  adding to its existing heavy traffic impact on Spooner Row

Assuming (naively) that the operator concerned will only operate 5 days a week and 'only' 12 hours a day, that equates to 'one truck every seven minutes' trundling through Spooner Row to move that material in and out of the H*r*n  F*arm site.

Isn’t it time now to really do something to stop the HGV traffic going through our village . I walked from the school to the Boars PH and in that time 10 HGV’s passed me !!!!!!

I see that the Environmental Health Officer from Breackland District Council recommends approval. 

http://eplanning.norfolk.gov.uk/PlanAppDisp.aspx?AppNo=FUL%2f2020%2f0062

I think the numbers are off here, if you bring 60000 tonnes of materials to the site with each lorry having a load of 20 tons, you have 3000 trips, but that is only allowing for the vehicle to leave the site and not return, therefore it's 6000 movements through the village.

If you then crush those materials to sell again you generate another 6000 movements of the lorry leaving the site and returning.

Therefore for 120000 tonnes you generate not 6000 movements but 12000 and this doesn't allow for loads not 100% full or other business besides bringing this material to the site.

Factoring best cast 5days week/8hrs day/52 weeks a year you have HGV every 10mins.

Now bearing in mind the application in Carleton Rode for the same amount of traffic that would make it best case one lorry every 5mins excluding all the traffic currently using the site and the current Newalls activity.

If both of these sites have full production you will have a lorry every 3mins or less based on current traffic. 

Anyone else think this is total madness ????

Highways has requested a detailed Transport Statement of existing and proposed transport to and from the site before taking a view. This is very important, the transport of aggregate has an environmental impact elsewhere such as Spooner Row. Is Highways aware that the existing scale of transport is unwanted and causes problems?

Could our community councillors please react here? We really need your input.

503 views of this thread and not one Spooner Row resident has commented on this application directly to Norfolk County Council

http://eplanning.norfolk.gov.uk/PlanAppDisp.aspx?AppNo=FUL%2f2020%2f0062

These HGV's will be coming through your village, as well as mine and time is running out to try and stop it.

Will your parish council make a submission? 

 Can anyone explain why a London based skip firm is wanting to operate a waste management site in Besthorpe?

LGC's website looks as if it was put up in a hurry.  They state they have been in business for 20+ years but then give their skip rental rate at only 2000+ units.  Not exactly a thriving skip company!

722 views to this thread now.

Thank you to the 2 Spooner Row people that commented back to Norfolk County Council on this application 

We need more residents to come forward, so please visit

http://eplanning.norfolk.gov.uk/PlanAppDisp.aspx?AppNo=FUL%2f2020%2f0062 

But still no comment from your parish council.  Please comment.

By way of an update, I have been advised by Norfolk County Council that the Double Banks Farm application has been withdrawn.

Night after night these are going through the village, you get woken at just gone 5am and now you get woken at gone midnight, all you want is to get on with your life.

Where do the directors of Newals live ? I know some people with HGVs, let’s see how they like getting woken up at all hours.

What a contemptuous attitude toward a community where many are inconvenienced by this lorry company. What about the lorry company moving instead to a location where it won't impact on residents, like to an industrial estate which bests suits this type of company. Companies that use HGVs to this extent are best located next to trunk roads and not through villages.

The HGV park on Bunwell Road has no planning, in fact it was fought by the residents who live in front of it, they won, fine example of the great planning enforcement we have to contend with.

I believe people have met Newalls workers face to face, they get verbally abused.

As someone who hears the lorries driving though the village, why is it a coincidence that when they return back to site within 10-15mins you get cars flying through the village with 

no exhausts at silly speeds, I think the comments that support this site show the level of intelligence these individuals have.

Location is everything, maybe if the directors of this business had any thought for others they would consider this, then again I'm sure in a few years it will go to the wall owing millions to various local buinesses, local people for local jobs right :) as long as I'm alright jack, then you can buy all the lorries back for a tener and call it Newalls 3, the Return.

Of course when you get another loan from the taxpayers of .5 million, sorry I mean covid loan, you can state you have 3million in assets due to those vehicles being totally undersold to the very people the money should of gone too.

Richard, you seem to have missed the point entirely. You criticise me by stating that i am ANON and you have nothing to ad to the post heading. 

The person said. Night after night these are going through the village, you get woken up just gone 5am and now you get woken at gone midnight.

I was merely stating, if it was stressing me that much I would go the Newalls office and ask to talk to a manager, or director, rather than post on this site. You can’t guarantee any Newall Personnel look at this notice board.

Someone commented that  people have met Newalls workers face to face, they get verbally abused. Unbelievable, what on earth did you think was going to happen?

As for running on about Newalls business financially. Come on, 50% of company’s do the same thing. Its how things are now, Ive had it happen to me several times. They even like your posts on Linkedin ,after they just robbed you.

Please, don’t reply with big words, complicated paragraphs, criticize my grammar and spelling, as that’s just showing off and belittling. Borderline bullying. It an insecurity thing people do when they know, deep down, that the person they are replying to is so much better than them.