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How interesting is it, that the first two responding to Mr Ward are both village hall trusties..anyone else notice this?

 

(Dear Anon,

Anyone local is welcome to respond on this MB so long as they are not offensive. Whether they serve as a local trustee/committee member is irrelevant.

Webstation)


-- Edited by webstation on Tuesday 2nd of May 2023 01:54:45 PM



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Anonymous wrote:

How interesting is it, that the first two responding to Mr Ward are both village hall trusties..anyone else notice this?

 

(Dear Anon,

Anyone local is welcome to respond on this MB so long as they are not offensive. Whether they serve as a local trustee/committee member is irrelevant.

Webstation)


-- Edited by webstation on Tuesday 2nd of May 2023 01:54:45 PM


 

I'm not certain what you are suggesting with your comment, but I'm interested in exploring it.

It is likely (and from my experience, true from other councils) that people who wish to assist the community voluntarily with their time and effort will join one or more local groups that we have running.
Perhaps both! Some local councils don't even have a separate committee for their village hall.
So people responding to concerns about their council are very likely to be on one or more (perhaps both) groups.
So seeing 'the following posts are from the Village Hall Committee' is expected isn't it?

Maybe you mean something else?
If you are insinuating that there is some sort of coordination going on by a group or members within a group, we could explore that also.
Maybe it's true . . .

People joining the groups (as previously mentioned) act because they wish to assist the community.
Certainly individual members may act on their own desires (egoes), but believing that a voluntary group's members will just decide to gang-up on an individual just because they don't like them sounds a bit far-fetched.
In the twelve or so years I've been here, I've got to know many of the members of both of the current councils and I know that the Village Hall group, on the whole are a decent bunch who just want to help the community.
They don't appear to be the types to act out of sheer animosity or hatred.
Surely there is more to it than that . . .

What if the actions of a particular council member appear to put the very committee in jeopardy . . . that the actions of that member are more to advance the individual councillor's ego rather than the community at large.
What then?
Would it not be understandable then that members / a group of people would react to this and seek to get the devisive member removed?
Is that 'ganging up out of hatred' or 'seeing a problem that can only be fixed by the removal of a divisive member of the group to benefit the community?'
There is a world of difference.

You may say 'well they should just work through it . . . just get on with it' . . .
Suppose they can't? Suppose they've already tried this and nothing has changed?
Suppose they believe that the member in question is preventing the successful running of the committee and preventing other people from wanting to be councillors?
What then?

Someone giving their time and effort freely will only desire (maybe) gratitude and a sense pride in return for helping out.
Why should they attempt to do this when they may get threatened or verbally attacked? Or have to deal with massive stress and tension because of one group member?
Why should they bother?

We have now had four (forgive me, I may be wrong about the number) Clerks leave the council directly because of this member's attitude.
We've also had two council members resign from the Council in a very short time period for the same reason.

So either six people (including myself and others) are completely wrong about the member in question.
Or that member is, indeed, a major problem. In actuality, 'a detriment to the community'?
Occams razor.

I hope things change before even more councillors realise they can't work with such a divisive person and hand in their resignation.
I hear a whisper that it's already too late . . .

Maybe we should just continue to stick our heads in the sand . . .

Grant



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Dear Grant 

Occams razor is spot on . The simplest explanation is often the truth 

A truly (....edited...) , who came last in the councillor election results but will no doubt carry on as though nothing has happened and will persist with the thought that everyone else has got it wrong. 

 

-- Edited by webstation on Wednesday 24th of May 2023 12:29:56 AM



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Another resignation! What is going on with CC ? No minutes from meeting on 18th ? 



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I am told that yesterday (13th July), another councillor resigned from our Community Council.

So to tot up, in less than six months we have had . . .

Councillor Stephen Ward - RESIGN
Councillor Julian Halls - RESIGN
Councillor Martyn Lemon - RESIGN
Councillor Mal Andrews - RESIGN (yesterday)

Three of the four councillors above stated the same reason for resigning, the unacceptable behaviour of one particular councillor who refuses to modify his conduct and does not act in the interests of the community.

Shall I repeat what I said in my previous post (wasted words perhaps)?
Something must be done before we have more councillors resign from our Community Council.

Grant



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Anonymous

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I went into South Norfolk Council today and checked the Voters Roll. There is no Grant listed as a voter on the roll   



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Sally. Halls

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Yes, well said it’s about time there were some sensible insightful comments made about the state of the SRCC. My husband Julian spent the last four years of his life dealing with this toxic, self important individual member of the Council. He was so disillusioned by the fact that this individual was re-elected by a very small margin that he resigned at the first meeting of the new Council. The thought of dealing with the stress of another four years of such destructive behaviour was a step too far. There are decent selfless people who give a lot of their free time to the Community it’s a shame that one individual can undermine this process.



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Andy

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Time for a village poll on the subject of community council maybe ! Half a dozen councillors have resigned this year for same reason ( a high percentage of our votes in resent election wasted ) No one coming forward to replace them for same reason ! This issue will may never get resolved and our community will suffer !! 



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Richard

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No Andy, its time for the village hall committee to stop targeting those on the community council who are not also on the village hall committee.



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Anonymous

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Richard wrote:

No Andy, its time for the village hall committee to stop targeting those on the community council who are not also on the village hall committee.


 What a stupid thing to say.
 Three of the four councillors that resigned stating that they could not work with the councillor in question had nothing to do with the Village Hall committee!
 Many people on here (including myself) speaking up about a certain councillor's continued abusive conduct also have nothing to do with that voluntary group.
 If the Village Hall committee disappeared in a puff of smoke, Spooner Row would still have the same problem on it's Council and resignations would continue to occur.

 There is no 'targetting' (other than perhaps you attacking our Village Hall Committee, a group that are doing immense good for our community judging from the recent posts by Andy).
 How many more people need to resign off our council until bringing up the reason why they are doing this becomes acceptable to you?

 



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Andy

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Wrong way round Richard. The Village Hall committee are functional and get things done for the benefit of the community. We are regularly targeted by a certain individual from CC. Maybe attend a CC meeting and see for yourself . 



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Anonymous

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So a resident asking questions and then being ignored by those on the committe is labelled as targeting the village hall? 



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Andy

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All questions asked of the village hall committee are considered and answered in the correct and proper way .



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Anonymous

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What has any of this got to do with the Village Hall Committee or the Hall?
This thread is titled 'Stephen Wards Post'  (which is reference to his resignation notice posted on May 5th).
That post and his letter have nothing to do with, or make any reference to the Village Hall group or the Hall itself.
Nor was Cllr Stephen Ward a member of that group.

Reading this entire thread, it appears like someone has a beef with them (the Village Hall group) and is trying to pin the issues that the Council has on them.
Quite shameful in my opinion. blankstare
The issue of constant resignations off the council is (as has been pointed out by many different people INCLUDING the resigning members themselves) all down to the abusive nature of one particularly councillor.
Nothing whatsoever to do with the Village Hall or the group running it.



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