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Post Info TOPIC: Resignation letter from Cllr Andrews & abuse directed towards the Chairwoman & the Clerk on the Community Council
Christian Shadlock

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Resignation letter from Cllr Andrews & abuse directed towards the Chairwoman & the Clerk on the Community Council
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Since our Council has become of county-wide interest due to the recent two EDP articles, I have decided to put this forward.

Mal's resignation letter is in the public domain but the comments and opinions made in council by our chairwoman Sue are not.

There is too much information to put in text here, so please see the video which is an uncut version of the council meeting in question.
There is discussion afterwards from several councillors, many of whom have also resigned off the council since this meeting.
I attended the meeting in question and have the right to report on it.

Some key points:


Sue reading from Mal Andrews resignation letter:

Dear Sue
After a lot of thought, consideration and much deliberation, it is with a heavy heart that I hand in my resignation from Spooner row Community Council with immediate effect. When joining, I expected to be contributing to an effective team of like minded individuals working for the good of our three communities. It is very apparent, due to Robert Foster's derisive attitude and appalling behaviour to other members of the council, the clerk and members of local organizations, that that is not going to be possible and I therefore find myself unable to commit my time on a fruitless errand.

Cllr Sue Hewitson (Chair) comments:

I've been involved for four years, I'm so weary, I'm tired of the animosity and it is always usually directed at myself and the clerk and from my own point of view, I feel like an abused victim. I've  kind of got used to it and it was only Carl calling it out in the week that  eally made me rethink the position I found myself in. So we do need to address this. It's got to stop . . .


Christian Shadlock



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Karen

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This resignation clearly shows concerns about bullying. The Clerk is an employee. What is the overviewing District Council doing about this? If the District Council cannot resolve this situation and the other ongoing problems (see other threads on this website over the last few years) then there is something very wrong with the governance system in this country. The voluntary Councillors' Code of Conduct does not work in this case. Perhaps it is time that the local MP addressed this failure in the governance system as no doubt we will not be the only ones going through this.

The discussion on this website about recent EDP articles sum up this untenable and ridiculous situation we find ourselves in as a community  https://spoonerrow.activeboard.com/t69873561/row-over-spooner-row-website-leaves-parish-council-in-chaos-/



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Mal Andrews

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I’m not going to comment on the ins and outs of my experiences on the Community Council, as despite my differences with Cllr Foster, I do agree with him that a public forum with people able to post and comment with anonymity  is not the place to air such views. This is by no means a criticism of the message board as I believe it to be a wonderful platform in which to discuss all aspects of our village life and local information.

However for the sake of continuity and not to be misquoted in the future, here is my resignation letter in full.



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Webstation

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Dear Mal,

Thank you for your post and kind words of support.

Regarding the anonymous post feature on this message board. Many forums include the option to remain anonymous. Twitter, for example, uses handles that do not require real-name use, email verification, or identity authentication, therefore participants can use Twitter anonymously if they choose. This message board is similar in that it believes that people can express their views and opinions with the option to be in control of their privacy. Users of this site have the option to use their real name, a username, or just use the anonymous default. This site is moderated and abusive comments are deleted or edited. 

Ps. Do you want to post your resignation letter?



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Anonymous

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I notice my letter didn’t upload:

 

The Chair

Spooner Row Community Council

 

Dear Sue

After a lot of thought, consideration, and much deliberation, it is with a heavy heart that I tender my resignation from SRCC with immediate effect.

When joining, I expected to be contributing to an effective team of likeminded individuals working for the good of our three communities.

It is very apparent due to Robert Fosters derisive attitude and appalling behaviour to other members of the council, the Clerk, and members of local organisations, this is not going to be possible, and I therefore find myself unable to commit my time on a bootless errand.

When elected I was excited, positive and genuinely looked forward to the prospect of being actively involved in contributing to positive benefits for our communities, which are utterly unachievable with such negativity and vitriolic vindictiveness at play from one individual within the council.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Mal Andrews



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Christian Shadlock

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I appreciate your post, Mal.

I attended the meetings where you spoke and I considered you to be a valuable asset to the Committee. Your knowledge with website design would have been of help with the new website that the council is hoping to setup.
Your not being on the committee is a loss to the council and to our community, but I understand your reasons for leaving.

Stephen Ward resigned at our last meeting. He had already resigned as council member but was continuing on as voluntary financial officer.
He gave his time entirely freely to assist us and was clearly a very educated and knowledgeable man in the financial field. I was amazed by his presentation to the new members of how the finances were organised.
He's gone now. Another asset to our council and community leaves for exactly the sames reasons you gave.

The next video I intend to post in the next few days will feature his resignation and reasons for doing so, but it will not be posted to this board.

I will not write any more on here. Instead, I intend to continue to post uneditted recordings/videos of council meetings on my YouTube channel to show the public exactly what is going on.
I do this because I feel that the minutes provided do not give the full picture of what councillors are having to deal with.
No matter what side you are on in this argument, you can form your own opinion by hearing what is being said.

Christian Shadlock



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Anonymous

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I would be very interested to see those Christian.

Can you please provide a link to your channel?

 

Thanks



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Christian Shadlock

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No issues.

Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/@SpoonerRow69

Christian Shadlock



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Anonymous

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Thank you for posting these Christian, it’s good for the community to be able to hear whats going on, the latest one is  how petty councilor foster is! 

https://youtube.com/@SpoonerRow69?si=suX6eOhkIF35suX0



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Anonymous

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Thankyou Christian for posting, I have also just listened to your second video,it’s very clear Robert Foster argues for the sake of arguing when he doesn’t get his own way! 
To make it clear, we as a family do not want OUR money spent on gym equipment!

we want a path that people can safely use to get to the bus stop at the top of the road.

we have the funds , let’s not have people wallowing in glory because we have gym equipment, that people won’t use! 

Ask your community what they want.?



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Anonymous

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I would also like to see a path to the top of Station Road to get to the bus stop, but we already pay money towards that in our council taxes to Norfolk County Council. We should ask them to provide a footpath. The Community Council money is for local projects. I wouldn't mind some gym equipment, and it doesn't have to be about someone's ego. The playing field was purchased many years ago for residents to enjoy and should remain so.



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Anonymous

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Dear ANON, I wonder who I’m addressing.😃 .Anyhow,  all I ever see is people walking their dogs on the field. Children using their play area.No one ever using tabletennis table .And sometimes people using the goals.
If Robert foster has his way,then we will be seeing a glorified shed on the field portrayed as a pavilion.what use is that? 

I don’t care if SNDC are in charge of footpaths! 
we need to be speaking to them about the path issue.offering to help pay for it.

imagine if someone gets killed ? How awful will that be? 



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Christian Shadlock

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Just going back to the original thread topic ...


> Thank you for posting these Christian, it’s good for the community to be able to hear whats going on.

You are welcome and I thank you for your interest.

I have my own opinions as to what is going on within the council but the audio extracts are posted without prejudice.
Spooner Row public can make up their own minds about what is occurring from what they hear and why most of the elected councillors and our RFO have now resigned.

It is my belief that what is occurring in the community council will eventually lead to it's collapse.
I think that is awful. I don't want that to happen but there is very little that I or anyone can do to remedy the situation.
I'm just a concerned resident willing to spend some of my free time to try to raise awareness.

No matter who's side you are on . . .
I would encourage anyone who has an interest in this to attend the meetings as a member of the public.

To those people who have the opinion that they WANT the Council to fail, I hope you realise that this may lead to higher council tax bills.
As well as this, Spooner Row residents will end up funding projects in the larger 'Wymondham South' region rather than projects in our own Village.

Christian Shadlock



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Anonymous

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Christian Shadlock - you could also help by keeping this from being what it seems like - your mission to bring the council down. Or at least trying to get one councillor to resign - that’s most unlikely to happen. 
yes there’s lots of issues but what you are going is nothing more than aggravating matters. Let’s leave the council to work it out between them . They are all grown ups and I don’t think your posts are helping - in fact rather the opposite. You are right we don’t want to go back to Wymondham as it will not be a benefit to any of us.

time to give it a test don’t you think ? 



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Karen

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I think Christian Shadlock is providing a service to the community by informing us about what is happening at the meetings.  From what I have read, he is not trying to bring down the council, he is trying to shine a light on why so many have resigned, such as Stephen Ward and Julian Halls amongst several others. Cllr Foster was one of those who were involved in leaving the parish of Wymondham and setting up the new Spooner Row community council. It is such a shame that relationships have now deteriorated so low on the council. Cllrs Ward and Halls were also involved in setting it up and both very much believed in having our own governance as a community, both stated in their resignation letters that they could no longer work with Cllr Foster. I think that speaks for itself.

I would say to Christian, keep doing what you are doing.



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Anonymous

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This kind of message of support  is what encourages gossips like Mr Shadlock who himself ran for council but did not secure enough votes to win a seat. He now seems to enjoy being a trouble maker. 
It looks like we were lucky. 

Perhaps this is Mr Shadlocks attempt to make himself popular ready for the next election?

He will not be getting my vote.

Isn’t it time that the council were left to sort things out without people stirring? 

We are a laughing stock. 

Does all this media attention really achieve anything?



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Karen

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Attending council meetings, which the public is at liberty to do, and posting sections on YouTube can hardly be considered gossiping, stirring, and causing trouble. Would you rather no one attend the meetings and dare not speak about the problems? I support what Christian has been doing although I have no idea who he is.

The council has been unable to sort things out for itself and it is clear this has been going on for some time. I understand that South Norfolk Council and other bodies have provided services such as mediation but the issues continue. The Council cannot retain its members, there is a lack of continuation and the focus is on the council's problems rather than the community. 

Currently, there are vacancies on the council for which Christian, you, or anyone else can apply, which the council can fill by co-option if no by-election is called.



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Anonymous

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Christian isn’t gossiping, he’s proving recordings of the council meetings, it’s good for us as a community to hear these. If Robert wasn’t on the council we would likely still have a full council including an RFO and they would probably be able to crack on and do some good for the community rather than arguing for half an hour that he doesn’t like the word exemplary then at the end saying he wouldn't be arguing this if he got the gym equipment!! Robert needs to do the right thing and stand down so the council can do what they are meant to be doing for the community taxpayers. 



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Anonymous

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I see (...edit...) is continuing to post on this forum anonymously. If you going to have a go at Mr Shadlock, who is quite obviously trying to help with his postings, at least change your narrative from your usual rhetoric. 



-- Edited by webstation on Wednesday 27th of September 2023 05:13:59 PM

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Daz, Suton

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What's is wrong with you people?

I am absolutely gobsmacked by all this.

All these petty arguments by so called adults, you are all behaving like a bunch of children.

You have taken responsibility to represent the interests of the local community to make our lives better and reading this forum I am shocked and embarrassed by what I read.

This is local politics, not Parliament and if any of our council think they are above all this, which this forum clearly demonstrates, then please resign.

It seems there is a complete lack of integrity and absolutely no team cohesion for the good of our community which you have chosen to represent.

Noone is forcing you to do it so if your interests are self serving and not for the good of the community then please resign.

Clearly this council has utterly failed to find commonality and seem completely unable to do so, therefore it should be dissolved and reelections take place and start again with members who's only interest is serving the community.

Oh, and by the way. It is insulting that this council is referred to as Spooner Row council and that everything is so SpoonerRowcentric. This is supposed to be about 3 communities, not just 1 and, with the state of this council, I can't see the point to all this.

Gym equipment for Spooner Row. Footpath for Spooner Row. New kitchen for Spooner Row., table tennis for Spooner Row. Goals for Spooner Row. Pavillion for Spooner Row.

What about the rest of us second class citizens.........

 



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Andy

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In fairness the Village Hall is always referred to as Spooner Row, Suton and Wattlefield Village Hall when posting on this message board and anywhere else.



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Anonymous

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The community council made the EDP today for all the wrong reasons again!!



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Anonymous

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EDP article: https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23839295.crisis-norfolks-spooner-row-parish-council-deepens/



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Anonymous

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I think the EDP gives an accurate account of the situation on the community council and the question is why so many councillors joined to leave soon afterwards. What is the common reason?

The Chair and the Clerk need to be applauded for holding it together for this long.



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Anonymous

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IT would helpful if the community council could enlighten all three villages as to what is going on now and in the future ( if there is a future that is ! )



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Anonymous

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I agree (regarding the Clerk and Chair being good people and working despite abuse and antagonism they recieve).
The vast majority of people in the village know what's going on and which individual is responsible.
Enough people have spelled it out for it to be blindingly obvious.



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Anonymous

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Dear Sir/madam yes i agree with the point raised by Sue that this notice board and the meetings should reflect the needs of the community..However its because that hasnt happened and the needs of the community have been overlooked for the needs of the councillors with vanity projects rather than essential projects which councillor Foster recommended that we now see those responsible leaving ..so i think the public can decide what has happened here ..its like the child who brought the football to the park picking it up and storming off home after a silly disagreement.  The truth is out there as x files used to say and its just a shame that the genie is now out of the bottle but the 90k funds are frozen until some people grow up and admit the error of their ways  ..Anon.



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